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	<title>Comments on: Failed &#8211; Safe high score list for Flash games with SWFEncrypt &#8211; not safe</title>
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	<description>Life in a Flash</description>
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		<title>By: solution man</title>
		<link>http://shang-liang.com/blog/safe-high-score-list-for-flash-games-with-swfencrypt/comment-page-1/#comment-866</link>
		<dc:creator>solution man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 18:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ye, I found that too.

What about this:

So you load encryptor_secure.swf in your game.swf

And what if you deny access to encryptor_secure.swf? Then nobody can&#039;t see how they are encrypted.

Tell me what you think ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ye, I found that too.</p>
<p>What about this:</p>
<p>So you load encryptor_secure.swf in your game.swf</p>
<p>And what if you deny access to encryptor_secure.swf? Then nobody can&#8217;t see how they are encrypted.</p>
<p>Tell me what you think <img src='http://shang-liang.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: 5566</title>
		<link>http://shang-liang.com/blog/safe-high-score-list-for-flash-games-with-swfencrypt/comment-page-1/#comment-865</link>
		<dc:creator>5566</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 05:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@solution man, when u load the numbers from php, it&#039;s very easy to get the info what you are loading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@solution man, when u load the numbers from php, it&#8217;s very easy to get the info what you are loading.</p>
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		<title>By: solution man</title>
		<link>http://shang-liang.com/blog/safe-high-score-list-for-flash-games-with-swfencrypt/comment-page-1/#comment-864</link>
		<dc:creator>solution man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 21:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe you could do this:

Load from php file to the encryptor_secure.swf and there will be 
$n1=1987;
$n2=7;
$n3=15;
$n4=3;

only seeable at the php file, and flash only loads them. Then nobody can&#039;t know how they are encrypted?

Hope this works ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you could do this:</p>
<p>Load from php file to the encryptor_secure.swf and there will be<br />
$n1=1987;<br />
$n2=7;<br />
$n3=15;<br />
$n4=3;</p>
<p>only seeable at the php file, and flash only loads them. Then nobody can&#8217;t know how they are encrypted?</p>
<p>Hope this works <img src='http://shang-liang.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://shang-liang.com/blog/safe-high-score-list-for-flash-games-with-swfencrypt/comment-page-1/#comment-202</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it allways says High score rejected and Im not trying to cheat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it allways says High score rejected and Im not trying to cheat.</p>
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		<title>By: Burak KALAYCI</title>
		<link>http://shang-liang.com/blog/safe-high-score-list-for-flash-games-with-swfencrypt/comment-page-1/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>Burak KALAYCI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 08:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I can’t believe I’ve missed your post- I’ve just ran into it.

We do bypass SWFEncrypt with ASV, only after 3 months. (ASV 5.25 bypassed SWFEncrypt 4.0-4.02, ASV 4.28 bypasses 4.03-4.04).

I hope you are at least keeping ASV.

All the best,
Burak</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I can’t believe I’ve missed your post- I’ve just ran into it.</p>
<p>We do bypass SWFEncrypt with ASV, only after 3 months. (ASV 5.25 bypassed SWFEncrypt 4.0-4.02, ASV 4.28 bypasses 4.03-4.04).</p>
<p>I hope you are at least keeping ASV.</p>
<p>All the best,<br />
Burak</p>
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		<title>By: saravana</title>
		<link>http://shang-liang.com/blog/safe-high-score-list-for-flash-games-with-swfencrypt/comment-page-1/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>saravana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 05:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi,
i saw in ur code very nice, but i want full secured score posting from flash to php (i don&#039;t want display the HTTP in validation, score, player and etc ) plz help me.

saravana</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi,<br />
i saw in ur code very nice, but i want full secured score posting from flash to php (i don&#8217;t want display the HTTP in validation, score, player and etc ) plz help me.</p>
<p>saravana</p>
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		<title>By: 5566</title>
		<link>http://shang-liang.com/blog/safe-high-score-list-for-flash-games-with-swfencrypt/comment-page-1/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>5566</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 02:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel socket can be a good way. xml socket plus https! Sigh, looks like there&#039;s no easy way out. Stupid me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel socket can be a good way. xml socket plus https! Sigh, looks like there&#8217;s no easy way out. Stupid me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: guycalledseven</title>
		<link>http://shang-liang.com/blog/safe-high-score-list-for-flash-games-with-swfencrypt/comment-page-1/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>guycalledseven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 15:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ups, I forgot to mention xml socket servers. You can have score logic in the server part of the game so it never come to client in swf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ups, I forgot to mention xml socket servers. You can have score logic in the server part of the game so it never come to client in swf.</p>
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		<title>By: guycalledseven</title>
		<link>http://shang-liang.com/blog/safe-high-score-list-for-flash-games-with-swfencrypt/comment-page-1/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>guycalledseven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 15:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t want to break your balls (I&#039;ve sent you an email), but swf is open format. SWF encryptors can&#039;t do much about it, except write code that is harder to read (obfuscate it like hell).

The only solution I&#039;ve found so far for secure highscores is sending them trough https + remoting + encryption + multi fake calls to confuse the faker. With tools like ServiceCapture or Charles you can sniff practically anything.

So actually... I haven&#039;t found good solution yet. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want to break your balls (I&#8217;ve sent you an email), but swf is open format. SWF encryptors can&#8217;t do much about it, except write code that is harder to read (obfuscate it like hell).</p>
<p>The only solution I&#8217;ve found so far for secure highscores is sending them trough https + remoting + encryption + multi fake calls to confuse the faker. With tools like ServiceCapture or Charles you can sniff practically anything.</p>
<p>So actually&#8230; I haven&#8217;t found good solution yet. <img src='http://shang-liang.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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